MidnightHustler75 Says:

Aug 28, 2008 - gettyman1 "unfair using our description of you" People of dubious character tend to project their flaws onto others. I was just pointing it out to you. "you can honestly say their are no contradictions" You claim there are many contradictions, but failed to produce just one. So far, you are all talk.

Ijapa Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - Christianity was meant to be a faith and NOT a religion. Look up FAITH and RELIGION in the dictionary. intelligent ones, theist or not, will understand. "...he [or she] who has ears, let him [or her] hear..."

tygew Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - "So the light scared it away? Bullshit, you people stop at nothing to spread your delusions. Plain and simply you are a liar." Actually the truth is that you are a coward who can't handle the REAL truth. I actually called up a demon to prove that they were NOT REAL. Instead I watched it for about a minute as I looked all around me & ran my hand through it in denial of what I was looking at; till it turned and looked me in the eyes. All my friends and family know about this event in my life.

ImTheGrey Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - So when they let you out of the padded room, that must have felt good. Is it hard to type coherently while on Lithium, or do you get used to it?

ImTheGrey Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - And this is called a group hallucination. You should thank your dealer, he gets you the best shit out there, no doubt about it.

ImTheGrey Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - They are called chromosomes, and they definetively prove common anscestory. And you wrongly lump atheism and evolution into one idea when one is a scientific understanding of nature and the other is a common sense understanding that supernatural mumbo jumbo isn't worth my time. Evolution by natural selection is a fact, even the pope thinks so and I'm guessing that he may have skimmed the bible at some point just for reference.

tygew Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - "And this is called a group hallucination." See? I told you that you were a coward. Group or mass hallucination?!? lol what the?! Dude talk about being delusional! Listen carefully ok: I was with 5 friends when we called up this demon. I did it to prove "PROVE" that it was NOT REAL! Instead I and all 5 of them saw the same thing at the same time. That is not a mass hallucination when we see *drum roll please* "THE SAME THING!" According to logic two people can NOT imagine the exact same thing!

ImTheGrey Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - Yes I was once a loyal unquestioning sheep as you are now. I went to a perhocial school for 9 years, and was confirmed as a Lutheran. Then I grew up. I know exactly what I am talking about, I have read the bible, the quran, and alot of the book of mormon(which is btw the most boring book ever put on paper) and all of them have something in common. They are all the unerring word of the all-powerfull creator of the universe.

tygew Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - continued- Still in denial, I looked all around & even ran my hand through its body to see how this hoax was being done. I could see in 3-d the contours of the face, eyes, skin, neck and hair. I ran my hand through its face as I watched it physically turn & look me in my eyes. I looked at the light switch, it was glowing slightly; I smacked the light up & it disappeared. They were all still screaming & crying huddled together on the floor. They described the exact same thing to me as what I saw.

tygew Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - "Yes I was once a loyal unquestioning sheep" You were never a Christian.

ImTheGrey Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - Dude you need help. My sister is a psycoclogist, I could refer you if you want. The first step is admitting that you have a problem. There is a prof in FL that has offered $1 million for anyone who can prove anything supernatural, whether it's ESP, telekenisis or demons. BTW- A mass hallucination is a phenomenon in which a large group of people, usually in physical proximity to each other, all experience the same hallucination simultaneously. Thats all you pal.

ImTheGrey Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - Chrisatianity- the unquestioning belief that a man was the son of the creator of the universe was killed as retribution over fruit eaten by the original two inhabitants of a garden. You are no different then any muslim or mormon. You "know" precisely how the world works because a bronze age bunch of nomads told you so.

tygew Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - "Dude you need help." I don't need help as I told you the truth. As far as me proving that I called up a demon would mean that I'd have to do it again. Two things here: 1. I'm a real Christian now who knows NOT to mess with the demonic realm...ever again. 2. I am just mere man, a mere human, I do not have the power or authority to call up or make a demon appear or to do anything for that matter. Neither does any one else. I believe that God allowed this to happen to open my unbelieving eyes.

ImTheGrey Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - You've just described my first experimentation with hallucinagenic mushrooms. I hit the keys on a piano and watched as the notes appeared before my eyes rising up toward the ceiling. I even held them in my hand. I was no the only one to see this. Does this mean that music is a visible entity? No it means that I was tripping my balls off. Your experience may not have ben chemically enhanced but it was the exact same concept.

tygew Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - "Christianity- the unquestioning belief" God is a God of Justice so he could not merely say "you are forgiven". There needed to be retribution for sins committed. There is no way that a man can be justified for the law that he broke. God is a God of Love, he became a man, the only perfect man who could take our place for that payment of sin. If you do not accept this gift, this free payment for your sins, then you will stand alone guilty of sin and eternally condemned. Blasphemy condemns you...

ImTheGrey Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - You were 12. Kids that age, especially in groups, have wonderfull imaginations. I have no doubt that you believe what you saw was real but you're an adult now and should be able to discern dreams from the real world. Not being able to do so qualifies as psycosis.

tygew Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - "You've just described my first experimentation with hallucinagenic mushrooms." It's not the same concept as I was completely sane & sober; I never drank or did drugs before this; it was noon & I was very awake; I did not believe I would see it so I couldn't just imagine it; 5 others saw the same thing as me, at the same time; I looked all around me and ran my hands through it; it turned & looked me in my eyes; they saw the same thing as me...same thing...same...um...same...same...same thing..

tygew Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - "You were 12." You think youre so smart! lol. truth is you are a coward hiding behind what you think is logic. I don't know about you but I recall my past in detail. I remember when I was 3 I was getting my diaper changed, some kids laughed at me so I picked up a stick & chased them. I remember when I was 4 going to see family in OK. I have described this in detail to my family. They thought that maybe I heard story's and repeated them. So I gave them details & they were amazed by my accuracy.

ImTheGrey Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - A god of justice who gave his "perfect" message to a tiny group of nomadic goat hearders no one had ever heard of and ensured that his message would not be spread until nerly 1500 years later.And when it was spread it had been restated retranslated reworded and changed so many times that no one could agree on which parts meant what. Since all this time no one outside of centeral mesopotamia had ever heard of this guy billions of people were sent to hell by no fault of their own.Yeah great plan.

ImTheGrey Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - "truth is you are a coward hiding.." says the guy who believes in a place of eternal punishment where you can be sent after you die for committing thought crimes. I am not the one who needs to tell myself fairy tales about an after life to give my day ot day exsistence meaning. And logic tells you that people rose from the dead, snakes, donkeys and shrubs talked, food mutiplied, liquid was made solid, and 8 people cared for the waste and food of 10000 animals on a boat for a year. Riiiiiight.

DanC9189 Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - DO IT AGAIN AND FILM IT!

gettyman1 Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - You are the coward hiding behind fairytales and pure BS tygew.I remember being 3 and watching the Beatles on Ed Sullivan in 1964 my family thought I just they yours did until I told them about the bed in my Mothers room breaking from all of us being on it. I remember playing with a boat on a small creek while on vacation at the age of 4. Big deal most of can remember like that. I was lucky enough not to be brainwashed into any religion or faith. You were obviously brainwashed into something.

DanC9189 Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - "theists don't swallow the ridiculously absurd assumptions of evolution" ha Kent Hovind isnt a great place to get information about evolution from. Do your own reading about evolution before talking about it, you dont undertand it.I could point you to some very good books if you want to stop sounding silly. Its comments like "odds show is virtually impossible" that make atheists feel the need to be condescending, and laugh at you.

DanC9189 Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - Another thing even if we say the story is true why did that make you think christianity is true? Did the demon say by the way i was mates with jesus, before running away. All that shows is demon are real which could be nothing to do with god and jesus and their pals.

gettyman1 Says:

Aug 29, 2008 - Again tygew you are just a liar.