annakarenina100 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - saftawi112, iam slaping midnighthustler i mean clappingg him because hee knows the bible moreee than i do. he is a heck off good in handling arguments.

annakarenina100 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - sick of what? the other reason i clap midnifgthustler forr is that he is very talented and creative in depictinng scenes.

saftawy112 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - yes he is talented in creating lies so you love him/her because your faith was build on lies

annakarenina100 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - i love everybody saftawy112. i do not ahte anyoine . jesus taught us in the bible to love each other, especially our enemies. jesus' message is love and love and love.

saftawy112 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - yes i know jesus taught you to love everyone my enemies those who refuse me to judge bring them here and slay them "very lovely"

saftawy112 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - jesus the peaceful one " dont think i came to bring peace to earth , nay i came to spread sword not peace " sword ?? very lovely peaceful

annakarenina100 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - jesus was giving delivering a message ,so he broughtt the example of slaying the enemies.

saftawy112 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - jesus is a lie - the real personality is that issa who is the prophet of god i wish you to compare these verses in quran which talk about jesus by the whole bible believe me you will love jesus of quran more than jesus of the bible because quran is the word of god but the bible isnt the bible is the word of paul , john , luke , matthew , philip , peter ....

saftawy112 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - annakarenina100 : (jesus was giving delivering a message ) who told you that ? please search the explain of priest tadros "i can give you the link if you like" some priests try to change the meanings of the verses for their own wishes

annakarenina100 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - Saftawy112 Basha ya Basha. i don't listen to everythingg the priest say in the church. i don't go to the church every suday. i rely on my understanding and the interpretation off early church fathers.

annakarenina100 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - Saftawy112Basha. the verse could also mean that the God will be punishing the sinnersss in the end. are all versess in quran have one meaning.? answer me please.

saftawy112 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - if you really rely on your understanding "logical one not emotional" then you will see the verse like i said it jesus & his followers used the real sword , you cant deny it dont forget peter when he cut the ear of the soldier , he did it like a clever fighter

annakarenina100 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - no no no saftawy basha. i have a brain and use logic. so am i goingg to hell if i dies as a christian. okay what happens if i beleive in prophet mohamed.?

saftawy112 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - (Saftawy112Basha. the verse could also mean that the God will be punishing the sinnersss in the end.) look how did you change your meaning in one minute . ok no it may not mean that because he said " bring him here" so he orders his people not the angels of the judgement day

annakarenina100 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - thanks saftawy112 basha anyway.

annakarenina100 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - saftawi112 you are a real basha.

saftawy112 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - its not the topic to believe in muhammed as its important to believe in what muhammed came with the only one god not the trinity god where is that trinity god in the old books ? why it was discovered after paul only only one advise : dont look at muslims just look at islam a western man who converted to islam i saw him in program - he said a wonderfull but sad words he said thanks god because i loved islam before i see islamic countries

saftawy112 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - i send you 2 messages please read them thanks

annakarenina100 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - well, but ifff i beleive in mohamed as aprophet. and he has a prophesy correct? so there is no problem

saftawy112 Says:

Nov 4, 2008 - well, but ifff i beleive in mohamed as aprophet. and he has a prophesy correct? so there is no problem - sorry i cant get what you mean

KoRnmunk00 Says:

Nov 5, 2008 - Abraham and Sarah believed that they could not bear a child.Later Abraham and Hagar, their servant,had a son named Ishmael.God said,no,I said for you and Sarah to have a child.Hagar asked God to bless Ishamel,and an Angel of the Lord told Hagar that her son Ishmael would be"a wild donkey of a man,His hand will be against everyone,and everyone's hand will be against him;and he will live to the east of all his brothers."Sarah and Abraham later had Isaac to lead the Israelites

TwinIonEngines Says:

Nov 12, 2008 - Gen 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. :21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

galalelshamy Says:

Nov 12, 2008 - TwinIonEngines what was the great nation whom god promised to make it through ishamel if it wasn't islamic nation ? 2 convenant : yes it was with isaac but is that mean there is no prophet will come from god but isaac ? many prophets came after isaac but god didnt mention them in that verse you used but yet you believe in them

TwinIonEngines Says:

Nov 13, 2008 - This is a question about Judaic belief. The point of the story is that they claim to be the descendants of the first son BORN INTO the Abraham's covenant. It doesn't matter what the names are, the elder son was circumcised at the age of 13 along with the rest of Abram's household, and the son born after Abraham entered the covenant was placed on the altar. Muslims may identify with either son they choose, but they cannot quote the bible to say that the elder son was surrendered to sacrifice!

TwinIonEngines Says:

Nov 13, 2008 - Also, you only make assumptions about what I believe! For one thing, I do not believe in ANY prophets. But I do not have to believe to know that the bible is real. It is an ancient book, the Jews had the story of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac in written form more than a thousand years before Muhammad or his Quran came on the scene. To misrepresent the traditions and teachings created by the Hebrews as being different from the present faith is ludicrous and malign falsehood.